Comments on: Slippery Slope? We’re flying down it http://www.rluxemburg.com/2004/03/25/slippery-slope-were-flying-down-it/ It's Latin for "Let there be light" Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:43:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Joe http://www.rluxemburg.com/2004/03/25/slippery-slope-were-flying-down-it/comment-page-1/#comment-67 Joe Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:59:22 +0000 http://www25.a2hosting.com/~rslux1/2004/03/25/slippery-slope-were-flying-down-it/#comment-67 He's not a religious zealot, he's a charlatan of one. I'm not sure which is worse. As for the base issue -- you have to give them credit for the disguise. Increasing the criminal penalty for harming an unborn child during an act of violence against a mother is a GOOD thing. Assault a pregnant woman, killing the child, and treat it like murder -- most people would support that concept. And then you realize what they're REALLY doing is attempting to put a legal protection on the fetus. Sneaky. And let's make a little prediction. Imagine it's October. Imagine what the Republicans will be saying about every Democrat who voted No on this legislation. Welcome to dirty politics. Again. He’s not a religious zealot, he’s a charlatan of one. I’m not sure which is worse.

As for the base issue — you have to give them credit for the disguise. Increasing the criminal penalty for harming an unborn child during an act of violence against a mother is a GOOD thing. Assault a pregnant woman, killing the child, and treat it like murder — most people would support that concept. And then you realize what they’re REALLY doing is attempting to put a legal protection on the fetus. Sneaky.

And let’s make a little prediction. Imagine it’s October. Imagine what the Republicans will be saying about every Democrat who voted No on this legislation.

Welcome to dirty politics. Again.

]]> By: cal http://www.rluxemburg.com/2004/03/25/slippery-slope-were-flying-down-it/comment-page-1/#comment-66 cal Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:08:04 +0000 http://www25.a2hosting.com/~rslux1/2004/03/25/slippery-slope-were-flying-down-it/#comment-66 I'm hoping we get the chance to not only get him out of office, but also to prevent anymore of this from happening (along with all federal protections he is taking away [like removing sexual orientation from the reasons you can't be fired list]). A while ago I had to support a friend in her decision. Not only did I have to protect her from the protesters outside the clinic holding their little placards and espousing unintelligable and ascinine sayings ("A mother ... her child" "A father supports his woman" - that one was particularly ironic), but I had to do it while being positive and non-biasing so that I would not influence her one way or another. I can't pretend to know how she *felt*, never mind what she was thinking. What she did share of her feelings were things I wanted to tell her were unnessary; overbearing guilt, shame and fear. Our choices need to be made without social stigma, or we won't make the right ones to begin with. Yes, we weren't out to lunch, but ****, this is her body, her life, her future, and her security~! How dare anyone make someone ashamed of that. No one is lining up to tell people to stop making job choices, school choices, etc, and then shaming them when they do make that choice. I've never seen this as anything but a war against women that want to be in control of their lives, no matter how they feel or what they do(n't do). Following your slope chere, I would have also had to go to jail as an accomplice along with my friend, who probably would have been legally considered a "host." I'm rambling I know...but such faulty logic always makes me think...If the woman is a host, is the fetus a parasite? How is that logical!?! How did something so natural and sometimes profound turn so ugly? I’m hoping we get the chance to not only get him out of office, but also to prevent anymore of this from happening (along with all federal protections he is taking away [like removing sexual orientation from the reasons you can't be fired list]).
A while ago I had to support a friend in her decision. Not only did I have to protect her from the protesters outside the clinic holding their little placards and espousing unintelligable and ascinine sayings (”A mother … her child” “A father supports his woman” - that one was particularly ironic), but I had to do it while being positive and non-biasing so that I would not influence her one way or another. I can’t pretend to know how she *felt*, never mind what she was thinking. What she did share of her feelings were things I wanted to tell her were unnessary; overbearing guilt, shame and fear. Our choices need to be made without social stigma, or we won’t make the right ones to begin with. Yes, we weren’t out to lunch, but ****, this is her body, her life, her future, and her security~! How dare anyone make someone ashamed of that. No one is lining up to tell people to stop making job choices, school choices, etc, and then shaming them when they do make that choice. I’ve never seen this as anything but a war against women that want to be in control of their lives, no matter how they feel or what they do(n’t do).
Following your slope chere, I would have also had to go to jail as an accomplice along with my friend, who probably would have been legally considered a “host.”
I’m rambling I know…but such faulty logic always makes me think…If the woman is a host, is the fetus a parasite? How is that logical!?! How did something so natural and sometimes profound turn so ugly?

]]> By: Melissa http://www.rluxemburg.com/2004/03/25/slippery-slope-were-flying-down-it/comment-page-1/#comment-65 Melissa Fri, 26 Mar 2004 03:32:37 +0000 http://www25.a2hosting.com/~rslux1/2004/03/25/slippery-slope-were-flying-down-it/#comment-65 That religious zealot needs to be elected out of office. This is why there is such a thing as separation of church and state. Doesn't look like anyone has informed him. That religious zealot needs to be elected out of office. This is why there is such a thing as separation of church and state. Doesn’t look like anyone has informed him.

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